'"What they said was you can't absolutely prove that those two things are connected." Challenged over the fact his statement was not supported by officials statistics published by his own department, Duncan Smith said: "Yes, but by the way, you can't disprove what I said either. I believe that this to be right, I believe that we are already seeing people going back to work who were not going to go back to work," he said. "I believe that this will show, as we move forward, that people who were not seeking work are now seeking work."'
Of course, lots of people picked that up and mocked it. Another assertion, quickly picked up by the New Statesman, was that homelessness figures had "hardly moved". Actually, homelessness in England is up by 27% since 2010. The New Statesman published an excellent piece, "Five things Iain Duncan Smith doesn't want you to know about the benefit cap" - essential reading.
Something which went unchallenged was the assertion, or implication, that people can go out and get a job if they want one.
It was inevitable that the interview would result in a complaint from IDS about the BBC. He said to Humphrys, "This is absurd. What you are doing, as always happens in the BBC, is seeking out lots of little cases from people who are politically motivated to say this is wrong.”
My final link is to a Steve Bell cartoon in the Guardian.
Labour had little to say. And that's because they support the benefit cap, and know that a large majority of the electorate support it too. No minds were changed yesterday, but what I found most worrying was that so many people on the ideological right were content to churn out statements which they know to be untrue or highly misleading.
And the Tories feel that they're on a roll, and can put forward further "reforms". We're hearing today about a reduction in the cap to £20k, if it's shown to "work"; stopping housing benefit to the under-25s; and denying housing to teenage single mothers.