tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post6125195520169444538..comments2024-02-29T10:55:43.449-08:00Comments on Watching A4e: The view from Planet ToryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-3799288639134238262013-06-23T07:17:13.735-07:002013-06-23T07:17:13.735-07:00It is clear that some Tories are DESPERATE to intr...It is clear that some Tories are DESPERATE to introduce a Workfare scheme to punish the unemployed but I do sense that the recent legal setbacks have put paid to such a scheme. However, don't be suprised if a Workfare scheme is part of the Tories next election manifesto. <br /><br />As has been pointed out above the very fact that some Tories are looking at a post-Work Programme scheme suggests it has failed. I can tell you honestly from my own experience of the scheme that it is weak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-19542186219161061222013-06-23T00:57:05.725-07:002013-06-23T00:57:05.725-07:00How does that compare with Workfare? Does it even ...How does that compare with Workfare? Does it even hold a candle to it? Looks like it'll be much of the same nonsense, squeeze a paid employee out of a job for the sake of putting an unemployed, unpaid person in with them. If not that, then where on earth are they supposed to go?! There's little or no jobs available for a large majority of the unemployed. I don't know where the government's collective head is at, but it sure isn't in the game.Chris_2812https://www.blogger.com/profile/15702034371644913800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-34492621681251593422013-06-22T17:46:23.245-07:002013-06-22T17:46:23.245-07:00It's worse even than community service. Assum...It's worse even than community service. Assuming 30 hours per week for 26 weeks, that means 780 hours of unpaid work for an unemployed individual. Compare that to the maximum number of hours a criminal can be given as community service, which I believe is a maximum of 300 hours.<br /><br />Now we can see how the Conservative and Unionist Party views the unemployed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613799067278928359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-68388038744034907902013-06-22T13:05:29.826-07:002013-06-22T13:05:29.826-07:00@Gissa,Funny how they were paid off for the last c...@Gissa,Funny how they were paid off for the last contracts,maybe they are twisting this so once again they can cash in for failure,in my experience somebody will end up cashing in.<br /><br />A few Months ago(Nov 2012) the DWP threatened to cancel contracts for those that did not meet minimum standards,Yeah right!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-14088377236880711342013-06-22T12:54:10.701-07:002013-06-22T12:54:10.701-07:00Unfortunately the DWP contracts with the providers...Unfortunately the DWP contracts with the providers are for 5 years. Early termination by the DWP would inevitably mean huge compensation being paid (at public expense). The amounts would dwarf those paid out on the termination of FND. <br />This would be PR disaster for the DWP so do not expect it to happen. <br />At best expect some sort of fudge with fewer stock being consigned to the WP and some sort of parallel program being run in house by the JCP. Thus the "flagship" WP can be left to quietly rust away.Gissajobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-33581777080695509062013-06-22T12:32:04.357-07:002013-06-22T12:32:04.357-07:00it says a lot about the Tory mindset when their tr...it says a lot about the Tory mindset when their treatment of those unfortunate enough to be poor (who have been let down by the WP at great expense) is identical to the punishment that is dished our through the justice system to criminals - i.e. punitive community work, aka CSOs. <br /><br />How very swivel-eyed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-3739712251560240462013-06-22T12:02:43.656-07:002013-06-22T12:02:43.656-07:00This looks to me like the interview form for suspe...This looks to me like the interview form for suspected fraud or overpayment, not for routine claims.historianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922746528891041071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-65759337235801998402013-06-22T11:36:46.298-07:002013-06-22T11:36:46.298-07:00After a recent visit to the JCP,I asked what can I...After a recent visit to the JCP,I asked what can I expect after the WP,apparently nothing other than signing on more often,I personally have no problem with this,other than the fact that there are no working computers,you are allowed into the building 5 minutes prior to your appointment and have a maximum of 10 minutes with your adviser,so what is the point? Sanctions? or are they hoping you will just get frustrated and give up.<br /><br />I asked about travel expenses and was told that no decision had been made as the amount of Returnees was unexpected(?) The Adviser(JCP) seemed quite overwhelmed as she had no answers and was obviously stressed,another well thought out plan.<br />PS,I did notice an increase in the presence of G4S security and that the 6 phones have now been reduced to 2 they are only available by ringing a 0845 number and booking an appointment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-50355423489661439942013-06-22T10:13:04.411-07:002013-06-22T10:13:04.411-07:00Watching A4E suggest you look at this, it's wh...Watching A4E suggest you look at this, it's what every Work Programme leaver will face when they go back to the Jobcentre.<br /><br />The forms number is MF 47, or GLED MF 47.<br /><br />https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/76479/response/194086/attach/html/5/04%20Undertaking%20the%20Customer%20Compliance%20Interview%20070711.pdf.html<br />Hot Girl 1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-39040298580791804122013-06-22T09:46:25.279-07:002013-06-22T09:46:25.279-07:00"Those who don’t find jobs via the Work Progr..."Those who don’t find jobs via the Work Programme will go through a Community Work Programme where they work 30 hours a week for 26 weeks to contribute to their community."<br /><br />So we're resorting to forced mass-slavery now? Wonderful...AeonThePhoenixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-59235730258528442013-06-22T08:09:49.209-07:002013-06-22T08:09:49.209-07:00I read this article(?) by Phibbs,it seems more lik...I read this article(?) by Phibbs,it seems more like a poorly thought out Manifesto,setting the ground work for countering the DWP figures soon to be released.<br />What strikes me as odd is that in most pro WP articles they are already pushing the ERSA figures as gospel and the DWP as unreliable,because the programme has not run long enough to bear fruit,was this not the same argument that was put forth in November? In my opinion they could of included May's results if length of time was a factor seeing as ERSA had no problem getting up to date data.<br />Am I a conspiracy theorist? starting to think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-23497500459220633662013-06-22T06:22:12.358-07:002013-06-22T06:22:12.358-07:00I am a conservative voter. But I do not support th...I am a conservative voter. But I do not support their attacks on the poor. You don't kick someone when they are down. Tory attitudes have to change, it may mean restructuring the work programme to be provider-less web based only job searches to save money which will support benefits, while not creating a society of blame or envy and treating the individual as a person and not as a scapegoat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6941116624675227992.post-66117932460663367272013-06-22T05:07:02.372-07:002013-06-22T05:07:02.372-07:00If the WP is working then why the cut in beneifts?...If the WP is working then why the cut in beneifts? Surely more people are coming off benefits (if the WP is working as they say) so there shouldn't be a need to cut benefits to lower spending on benefits, it should be lowing of it's own accord!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com